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If you're obese, you have an eating disorder. It's simple common sense. Not many of us like to be so big, but we got here. So, don't tell me that it's okay to have a slice of gooey cake or a slice of pizza because, "I'm depriving myself." I don't want one slice of pizza. If I eat that slice of pizza, I will want the whole pizza.
People who stay naturallly thin think we get fat from being overly lazy gluttons. As if we one day decided to eat entire bags of chips, baskets of Twinkies, and all the fried chicken God allowed us to cook. We may have gotten here by being careless with soda or chips, but the obesity came from a multitude of triggers, including overeating, but it's not limited to overeating.
Thin people can eat some pizza. They may want more, but are able to resist the gentle nudging of mind and gut. I can't do that. If I eat a slice of pizza, or some pasta, I want more. I don't only want more, but I start feeling intense hunger pangs. I start salivating and fretting. I'll go into a dizzy mind spin on how I was just fine eating low calorie, high nutritious foods, and now the smell of cheese lingering on my lips is twisting a knife of hunger in me.
I don't think normal sized people feel that. Or else not too many people would marginalize fat people as having extremely low will powers or being lazy. So...I'm fine with a low calorie diet, but I can't handle a bit of high calorie treats. I don't need it, and eating it is what makes me feel as though I'm "depriving" myself. My life isn't any less enjoyable by not having it. Don't force me to eat it. Don't groan because I won't have "just one piece" of something that's full of fat, carbs, and calories. I'm happier without it. Really.
You see. I don't go into a tizzy because that stuff's not in my house or on my plate. Outta sight, outta mind. I dont' crave it. Well, I don't crave it until I actually eat or smell it. If no company manufactured it, we wouldn't know what we were missing (why we have little freedom over our food choices). I'm not trying to say it's McDonald's fault that when I eat their chicken nuggets, I want to eat more.
My body chemistry seems aboslutely designed to store fat when it gets high impact foods. I'm guessing it's in my DNA. In some distant past, my ancestors were faced with food uncertainty. Sometimes food was good, other times, not so much. I'm probably alive because whoever in my family tree had the desire to keep munching when good foods came about lived. That person lived and procreated. Now, my body sees high fat and high calorie foods as a trigger to store more fat. I eat it, and get even more hungry. When I eat low calorie diets for a while, I'm kind of fine. In fact, I have to increase my food intake on some days... until I eat a cookie.
So...I think many of us are programmed that way. That's why fast food and junk food doesn't make everyone obese.
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How true and interesting. I appreciate your input. Very thoughtful.
31 mar 11 por membro: Mary2270
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I was reading an article this week, and the author was doing the math behind gaining 20 extra pounds over 20 years. It was something like consuming an extra 20 calories a day. Something just really very small. Seriously, even eating an extra 100 calories a day can make you gain 10 extra pounds a year based on 3500 calories equaling 1 pound.
An extra 100 calories a day does not an eating disorder make! I'm not saying that you don't have an eating disorder. I just don't think everyone who is obese has an eating disorder.
Actually, when I write that, I think that when I was gaining 10 pounds a year, I didn't eat just 100 extra calories a day. It was probably 500. I don't think weight loss is really just a simple in and out equation.
Anyway, I find myself thinking that I'm a substandard human being because I weigh 200 pounds (197 now!). And, when I think the only thing I might have done to get here is to gets something like an extra 100 calories a day, I think, there is no way I'm substandard. 100 calories a day is less than 1/2 a snickers bar!
And, who says you have to eat pizza? Sometimes, people have the most backward thinking!
Sorry for being so rambly.
31 mar 11 por membro: sooki
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Sooki, I think you're right, though. I think we end up having an eating disorder... Ideally, we shouldn't be eating that extra 100 calories or whatever, a day. I had the same thought about drinking or eating extra calories; however, once we gain the weight associated with those extra calories, we should just stay.
For example...
Let's say I weigh 130 lbs. I start drinking a soda for lunch on Mondays, Wednesdays and Friday (for whatever reason). That's an extra 150 calories per can, which is 450 a week. The operative word is "extra." For my age and activity, I consumed 450 calories "extra," meaning, on top of that 1600 calories a day. So, I gain a pound every seven weeks until I weigh a few more pounds.
Then, I "should" not gain weight. I should just be happy at 135 or 140 lbs, drinking my extra sodas, maintaining my weight, but that's NOT what happens. Nope. I decide to up the ante and eat 450 more calories a week some how.
At that point we begin eating incorrectly, or in a disordered fashion, I believe. We gain weight, eat more. We gain more weight from that, and eat more.
A natural eating situation would be one where those extra calories would be "noticed" by our bodies, and we'd eat fewer calories or move more to compensate.
Since we don't do that, I say we have an eating disorder, and we should treat it as such! :)
That's my take, but I definately agree that it doesn't take much to gain 10 lbs a year. I hate reading the forums online about what people think of "fat" people, becuase most assume we're scarfing down brownies and crisps with no regard for dignity. It didn't start that way, I promise!
You are NOT substandard, and congratulations on losing weight! I've been sooo hungry these past few days. It's tough!
31 mar 11 por membro: Devrinator
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I couldnt agree with you more. I start my telling myself, just this one tiny sliver of cake!, oh, just one square of chocolate and before I am in control of myself again, the whole bar of chocolate is gone or I might have eaten a huge huge slice of cake. And then its all downhill from there for next few days. Ah, I had a bar of chocolate yesterday, so half a bar wouldnt hurt today.
I agree that these sinful foods have a mind controlling ability and can overpower and hypnotize you. So, I will try and stick to your advice. I dont need them, not even a bite, not a taste, not a whiff of how good they smell.
01 abr 11 por membro: ruchi0112
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There are foods that we each enjoy that aren't gooey, bad foods. Today I thoroghly enjoyed a cup of light vanilla yogurt with several large strawberries. I probably enjoyed that more than a sliver of cake, or even a nice big piece of cake!
03 abr 11 por membro: Devrinator
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This really resonates with me. Back at my heaviest weight of 275 pounds i use to scarf down ridiculous amounts of food from Mcdonalds. I was addicted to that stuff. My typical order would be a cheeseburger, a big mac, 20 piece nuggets, 2 fries, apple pie and a chocolate sundae. I would also go on frequent diets and i realized evey time i broke my diet was because i would go on "treat days" and have my usual order of Mcdonalds. I was not satisfied with just 1 meal... and it lead to me breaking my diet every time at which point i would give up binge like crazy gain even more weight and then get horrified and diet again. It was a vicious cycle. Now i have learnt my lesson, i stay far far away from my trigger foods and i do not have "treat days" if i want a burger i make it myself so i can count my calories and control what im eating :)
06 abr 11 por membro: artica
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They are "trigger" foods, aren't they? I'm finding that wholesome food can be very satisfying. It just gets a little hairy when I smell foods like McDonald's. I don't really crave it. I can live without it...until I have just one bite!!
06 abr 11 por membro: Devrinator
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